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  • #91
    Originally posted by JW Santhem View Post
    Lately i begon to model another danish gun barge, and i thought it wouldnt get ingame Yet then when i did some more research it did actually have some sailing capacity. It could be on the open sea for 4 weeks with the full crew of 40 people. Maybe nice to have her approved after all?

    It was in the unknown, undated, uncatagorized section of orlogsbasen, yet it looked pretty time-appropriate to me. So here i present the plans, and a little wip, from the Defender and Transport pram of Friedrich's Waern.


    Length: 32 meters (105 foot)
    Length along waterline: to be measured, my guess is about 30 meters.
    Armament: 20 guns
    Armament: 0 guns (When used as transport vessel, a stripped version).
    Looks lovely!

    My only concern would be the flush deck - I know this is a period-accuracy concern for larger ship models, not so sure about smaller ones...

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    • #92
      Ships like this with a flush deck did exist in the PotBS period, the real design elements that are too modern are the knuckle lines along the bottom of the hull (that angled modern rowboat look). More importantly though are gameplay balancing issues of this many guns on this small of a ship.

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      • #93
        How does anyone feel about me working on the frigate on Chapman plate 31 http://covax.bth.se/chapmanprojekt/ritningar.html?X31
        Seems to me to have a 14 gun gundeck, a six gun upper deck and a pair of bow and a pair of stern chasers, giving it a 40 gun broadside and four extra cannon.
        Think that's doable?

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        • #94
          I already posted this in the steering forum but wanted to post it here as well because this one is asked about occasionally:

          It's fine for tutorial purposes but cannot be used in-game. It's the Swedish frigate Jupiter, I believe built in 1787. It's almost identical to her sister ship Venus of 1789:

          http://www.orlogsbasen.dk/visskib.asp?Skib=Venus&la=4

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          • #95
            okay Kris thanks; I find it so hard to determine which ships are from when..

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            • #96
              Ok, Kris is Awesome and gave me a whole bunch of possibilities...

              I were decidin' 'tween two vessels, both o' which be apparently cursed.. arr.. the Diamond an' the Falster; Cap'n Wood tried t' persuade me t' go wi' the Falster seein' as how its plans be easier on the eye, arr.. but I decided the Diamond be proper ship shape, an' I be no lubber who be havin' troubles wi' blurry plans.

              Ahem.
              So yeah I'm going to be doing the Diamond http://www.orlogsbasen.dk/tegn/A668.jpg

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              • #97
                I have barely any details on that gunbarge i posted, and nobody seems to really like it. So im putting that in the freezer for a good while

                In the meantime, id like to share some plans, and get your comments on some as well.

                Royal dutch yachts,
                http://img834.imageshack.us/i/10g1722.jpg/
                http://img192.imageshack.us/i/12g1778.jpg/

                Dutch Frigates (28, 36 and 46 guns)
                http://img522.imageshack.us/i/28gunknown.jpg/
                http://img706.imageshack.us/i/36gunknown.jpg/
                http://img444.imageshack.us/i/46g1745.jpg/

                Thinking of claiming that fine looking 36 gunner as my next project.
                Thoughts?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by JW Santhem View Post
                  I have barely any details on that gunbarge i posted, and nobody seems to really like it. So im putting that in the freezer for a good while

                  In the meantime, id like to share some plans, and get your comments on some as well.

                  Royal dutch yachts,
                  http://img834.imageshack.us/i/10g1722.jpg/
                  http://img192.imageshack.us/i/12g1778.jpg/

                  Dutch Frigates (28, 36 and 46 guns)
                  http://img522.imageshack.us/i/28gunknown.jpg/
                  http://img706.imageshack.us/i/36gunknown.jpg/
                  http://img444.imageshack.us/i/46g1745.jpg/

                  Thinking of claiming that fine looking 36 gunner as my next project.
                  Thoughts?
                  Wow, I LOVE the scrollwork and decorations on that first yacht!

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                  • #99
                    The first yacht looks to be after the 1770s so won't be accepted in-game. The second one however has an older style (probably 1740s?) and would be acceptable.

                    Of the frigates the only one even close to in-period is the 1745 two decker. The others are much much later, you can tell from the figureheads and how they lean forward instead of vertical.

                    Edit: On second glance over these, that 46 gun from 1745 is VERY exciting
                    Last edited by KrisWood; 09-29-2010, 11:15 AM.

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                    • VOC-retourschip Batavia

                      VoC retourship batavia

                      sailed around Y1614

                      these are the sail hulls and all
                      •Grote stag 144 mm
                      •Fokkestag 104 mm
                      •Bezaanstag 44 mm
                      •Grote-stengestag 44 mm
                      •Kruisstengewant 24 mm
                      •Blinde-stengewant 24 mm
                      •Grootbramstengewant 24 mm
                      •Voorbramstengewant 24 mm
                      •Voorstengestag 32 mm
                      •Kruisstengestag 24 mm
                      •Grootbram-stengestag 24 mm
                      •Voorbramstengestag 24 mm
                      •Fokkewant 56 mm
                      •Bezaanswant 36 mm
                      •Grootstengewant 36 mm
                      •Voorstengewant 32 mm
                      •Kruisstengewant 24 mm
                      •Blinde-stengewant 24 mm
                      •Grootbramstengewant 24 mm
                      •Voorbramstengewant 24 mm

                      (im treully sry for the dutch words im not sure that if i would translate them that it would be a proper one)

                      mid mast is 88 meters tall
                      front mast is 70 meters long
                      back mast is 45 meters long

                      there are 10 sails and 2 bonnetes with a total sice of 1180 m2.


                      A: Schoverzeil of Grootzeil
                      Wordt gevoerd als onderste zeil aan de grote mast, aan de grote ra
                      •Vlasdoek 1140 gram/m2
                      •Breedte 20,85 m
                      •Diepte 10,60 m
                      •Opp. 221 m2
                      B Fok
                      Wordt gevoerd als onderste zeil aan de fokkemast, aan de fokkera
                      •Vlasdoek 1140 gram/m2
                      •Breedte 16,86 m
                      •Diepte 8 m
                      •Opp. 135 m2
                      B1 Bonnet van de fok
                      •Vlasdoek 1140 gram/m2
                      •Breedte 16,86 m
                      •Diepte 2 m
                      •Opp. 34 m2
                      C Bezaan
                      Wordt aan de bezaansmast langsscheeps gevoerd aan de bezaansroede als ‘latijnzeil’
                      •Vlasdoek 1000 gram/m2
                      •Bovenbreedte 19,10 m
                      •Onderbreedte 14,60 m
                      •Diepte 10,10 m
                      •Oppervlak 85 m2
                      C1 Bonnet van de bezaan
                      •Vlasdoek 1000 gram/m2
                      •Breedte 14,60 m
                      •Diepte 1,70 m
                      •Opp. 25 m2
                      D Blinde
                      Wordt gevoerd onder de boegspriet aan de blinde-ra
                      •Vlasdoek 820 gram/m2
                      •Breedte 12,26 m
                      •Diepte 6,30 m
                      •Opp. 77,24 m2
                      E Grootmarszeil
                      Wordt gevoerd aan de grote mast, aan de grootmarse-ra
                      •Vlasdoek 1000 gram/m2
                      •Bovenbreedte 11,05 m
                      •Onderbreedte 19,35 m
                      •Diepte 14,25 m
                      •Oppervlak 217 m2
                      F Voormarszeil
                      Wordt gevoerd aan de fokkemast, voormarse-ra
                      •Vlasdoek 1000 gram/m2
                      •Bovenbreedte 10,20 m
                      •Onderbreedte 15,85 m
                      •Diepte 12,40 m
                      •Oppervlak 143 m2
                      G Grootbramzeil
                      Wordt als bovenste zeil gevoerd aan de grote mast, aan de grootbram-ra
                      •Vlasdoek 910 gram/m2
                      •Bovenbreedte 6,05 m
                      •Onderbreedte 10,55 m
                      •Diepte 5,65 m
                      •Oppervlak 48 m2
                      H Voorbramzeil
                      Wordt als bovenste zeil aan de fokkemast gevoerd, aan de voorbram-ra
                      •Vlasdoek 910 gram/m2
                      •Bovenbreedte 5,10 m
                      •Onderbreedte 9,60 m
                      •Diepte 4,35 m
                      •Oppervlak 32 m2
                      I Bovenblinde
                      Wordt gevoerd aan de bovenblindera aan de blinde steng, op het einde van de boegspriet; kleinste en lichtste zeil van de Batavia
                      •Vlasdoek 820 gram/m2
                      •Bovenbreedte 4,80 m
                      •Onderbreedte 9,60 m
                      •Diepte 6,50 m
                      •Oppervlak 47 m2
                      J Kruiszeil
                      Wordt gevoerd aan de bezaansmast. Heeft als enige zeil zowel een ra aan de bovenzijde (kruisra), als aan de onderzijde (begijnera)
                      •Vlasdoek 820 gram/m2
                      •Bovenbreedte 6,70 m
                      •Onderbreedte 11,40 m
                      •Diepte 6,70 m
                      •Oppervlak 61 m2

                      Beam at waterline: ???
                      Draught at Center of Ship: ???"
                      Draught at the waterline is ???"
                      Legnth From stem to stern:???"
                      Legnth of the Hull at the waterline: ???"

                      armament
                      8 guns per side front and back has none


                      there u have an website with a really great image of this ship

                      http://www.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=h...w=1328&bih=868




                      Ihope this is enough to make this ship an active ship used for the pirate people xD

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