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  • #46
    also thievery, Infiltration, sabotage, etc. is part of RP .

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Fripwud View Post
      also thievery, Infiltration, sabotage, etc. is part of RP .
      Uhhhhhh ... riiiiight.

      Just as is appearing in an enemy's port battle as one of your alts in a small ship that spends its time ramming ships on that side and getting in their way so that your REAL character's side can win more easily.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by ozziefudd View Post
        Uhhhhhh ... riiiiight.

        Just as is appearing in an enemy's port battle as one of your alts in a small ship that spends its time ramming ships on that side and getting in their way so that your REAL character's side can win more easily.
        thats a different thing. Using 2 chars of different nations at the same time is not allowed - at least not in pvp.

        But to infiltrate a society e.g. is a normal thing, which takes place in RL, in history and also in MMOs. In EvE online e.g. one of the biggest and strongest clans at all have been infiltrated over an amount of time of apprx. 2 years, until the infiltrator got enough trust to achieve an officer status within the clan and got access to critical clan functions. He abused that to destroy the clan more or less. It's kind of terrorism or sabotage like it happens in real world, played in a virtual game.

        Stealing of influence e.g. already happened in game, its the same with that. Same in RL, if you give your bank account data or credit card info to everyone, you don't know well enough, it's your own fault, if your bank account is empty suddenly.

        Of course if you are the victim, you don't like it, but from an objective point of view I find such things in online games interesting. And of course the game running company must not interfere in such matters - its just real deep role playing
        Last edited by Fripwud; 03-29-2012, 10:54 PM.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Paul_kingtiger View Post
          BSN can be bought on the auction house so you don't have to pay real money. Simply earn doubloons in game then buy the BSN from the AH. There has yet to be a single in game item that couldn't be bought either from the AH or via BSN bought on the AH.

          So yeah, can still be enjoyed by all wallet sizes.
          So where do the BSN that are on the AH come from? Is there a BSN quest reward?, or is it a rare loot drop? Oh now I remember a BSN receipe

          Recipe Book: Diary of an Impoverished Dev Team
          Structure: Bank
          Labor: 12 hour(s)
          Cost: 0 dbs
          Inputs: Rum: 16
          Tobacco: 8
          Wallet Sized Credit Card: 1
          Outputs: Burning Sea Note: 1
          Last edited by Coffey; 04-02-2012, 05:53 PM.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Coffey View Post
            So where do the BSN that are on the AH come from? Is there a BSN quest reward?, or is it a rare loot drop? Oh now I remember a BSN receipe

            Recipe Book: Diary of an Impoverished Dev Team
            Structure: Bank
            Labor: 12 hour(s)
            Cost: 0 dbs
            Inputs: Rum: 16
            Tobacco: 8
            Wallet Sized Credit Card: 1
            Outputs: Burning Sea Note: 1
            calm down dude, nothing is for free in life excpet death, and even that one cost your life!

            But still, you can buy BSN from AH, no matter where they came from, you can play for free, if you want. But of course it will be a different game experience, if you pay or not.

            You can also go to work by foot instead of by car, bus, train, whatever. Would safe you lots of money, but hey - of course it will take you longer, you would have to get up earlier in the morning in order to not come late etc. etc. etc... And even then, who built the streets, you are walking for free? Which wallet size did finance that one?

            Questions over questions...

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Fripwud View Post
              calm down dude, nothing is for free in life excpet death, and even that one cost your life!

              But still, you can buy BSN from AH, no matter where they came from, you can play for free, if you want. But of course it will be a different game experience, if you pay or not.

              You can also go to work by foot instead of by car, bus, train, whatever. Would safe you lots of money, but hey - of course it will take you longer, you would have to get up earlier in the morning in order to not come late etc. etc. etc... And even then, who built the streets, you are walking for free? Which wallet size did finance that one?

              Questions over questions...
              Calm yourself down dude can't you tell a joke when you see one? LOL

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Fripwud View Post
                thats a different thing. Using 2 chars of different nations at the same time is not allowed - at least not in pvp.

                But to infiltrate a society e.g. is a normal thing, which takes place in RL, in history and also in MMOs. In EvE online e.g. one of the biggest and strongest clans at all have been infiltrated over an amount of time of apprx. 2 years, until the infiltrator got enough trust to achieve an officer status within the clan and got access to critical clan functions. He abused that to destroy the clan more or less. It's kind of terrorism or sabotage like it happens in real world, played in a virtual game.

                Stealing of influence e.g. already happened in game, its the same with that. Same in RL, if you give your bank account data or credit card info to everyone, you don't know well enough, it's your own fault, if your bank account is empty suddenly.

                Of course if you are the victim, you don't like it, but from an objective point of view I find such things in online games interesting. And of course the game running company must not interfere in such matters - its just real deep role playing
                The RL arguement lacks validity becuse there is no in game mechnic to discourage the abuse of the trust of your fellow Soc mates. In real life if you were to steal from a business or other people you risk prosecution. The soc wallet and soon the soc wharehouses are very vulnerable. There is no balence in the risk to gain. There is no Spy vrs Spy way to get your money back or catch the theif in action.

                That you find cheating people out of the full use of there soc wallet interesting only encourages the abuse. You make it sound like there is some challenge to it. All you need is a lack of self-respect. There is nothing deep about it, no intrige, no 007 here

                What is interesting is that you say that game running company must not interfere in such matters. IMO you sound like you might be inclind to do this if you knew the game running company wouldn't interfere.

                At the end of the day its just the ruining of a useful perk of being in a Society. And that hurts the game.

                It would change my opinion on this if the game running company would say that they feel it is an important part of the realism. But I do not think they feel this way.
                Last edited by Coffey; 06-07-2012, 09:47 PM. Reason: edit for clearity

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                • #53
                  Can we have an update from the GM's on how this is going? I am really looking forward to utilizing these ingame and would love to know when this build will be pushed to Live servers. I was told late April that they were meant to be pushed to servers, and its getting very close ;P

                  Any news is good news!

                  Cheers,
                  Johnny Longprong
                  Level 50 Cutthroat
                  SERVER: Antigua
                  SOCIETY: Brethren Shipwright Company

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by holdentorana74 View Post
                    Can we have an update...
                    So far, only the initial build ver 2.10.35.0 has been put on the Test Server and there is feedback posted here.

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                    • #55
                      Society Warehouses, In Deed?

                      Will I saw that it was noted 05/30/2012 "Society Warehouses Deeds" are now on sale. Todays 06/02/2012 and I still don't see them. Is there still problems?

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